BTGWJ Antique Furniture Tips & Tricks

good morning to the state today we'regoing to be talking about antiquefurniture how do you tell how old thistype of piece is compared to others howdo you blow up your piece of furnitureis a true antique or if it'sreproduction or a good quality new pieceof furniture my name is Jason barosky onthe Casey octoman appraisal here companyhere at Kansas City and I appreciate youwatching I'm gonna turn it over herereal quick and share this on my page ifyou have questions thoughts concernsjust go ahead and post them here Ishould be able to see them on the screenif I'm looking down that's what I'mdoinghit the like button the share button ifyou think that we're talking about isgoing to interest you or your friendsfurther ado alright so we're gonna betalking about antique furniture how doyou tell if what you have is a realantique if it's a reproduction or forjust a newer piece of furniture in anolder style after several differentexamples today to show you differentthings again like I said if you havequestions please let me know we'd loveto answer questions during the video itmakes it much more engaging foreverybody and it just kind of keeps theflow going so without further adue someof the things that we look for that ourbuyers looking for for good qualityantiques are true signs of age what arethose look could be the finish on itcould be how it's how its waxed hung ifthere's a lock or varnish and all thosethings and those are pretty those areelite I Rachel thanks for watching thoseare really interesting details but thetrue fact of the matter is the easierways are how the piece was built wherethe construction methods what kinds ofwas a dovetailed was it but jointed wasit glued was it nailed who knows youknow those are the things that are theeasiest to look for and then how are thepieces of wood if assuming we're talkingabout wood furniture how were they madeand I'm fortunate to have several piecesto show you exactly what I mean by thatso let's start with this this piece hereis a drawer from a drop front deskmost of the pieces I wanna show youtoday are pieces that I personally ownduring my office and it just worked outso I still had most examples to show youwhat we're talking about today so thefirst thing we talked about where I lookat a piece like this you can toss a nicemahogany finish is the first thing youalways have to look at is the dovetailsee the dovetails here on the side it'scalled a dovetail because this spacebetween the pins the the pieces comingoff of the front water called pins thisnegative space the lighter colored woodon this piece and it's for examplethat's called the Dove tokes it lookslike the tail of a doveobviously these are really finely cutbut they're all cut by hand you see thislittle line right here at the backsideof all the pins all the tabs that'swhere the craftsmen scribed the piecethat's how deep he needed to have to cutand that's where you needed it to lineup and so those are the first things welook at is how were the dovetails madewere they made by hand like this or letme grab this piece here that got alittle loud or will they cut by amachine like in this piece this is froma little spool canvas I'd see that thoseare all perfectly symmetrical andthey're perfectly straight and there'sno way you could cut that by hand alsothis is an unusual dovetail in the comiclike a finger dovetail or they're juststraight in so it's kind of a nestingdovetail as opposed to a true you knowoverlay dovetail like you see in mostpieces but that had to be done byMachine and that's important becausemachines of this quality really are notaround until 1900 give or take a fewyears depending about where in thecountry you are and where the piece wasmade is gonna determine when thedovetail when they when they got themachinery everything in this countrystarts in the East Coast and moves westI mean that's always been the way inthis era in this generation nobody cameto California moved east everybodystarted the East Coast and moved westand so the machinery is the same way allthe original manufacturing was done outeast and moved slowly west that's whyyou see more pieces from Boston and Yorkand Baltimore than you do fromsay Cleveland or from Grand Rapids orfrom Chicago or any other citythe further week the further west you gojust the newer the pieces have to bebecause there were not people livingthere and the machinery had traveledacross country either so this is thisthe spool cabinet is probably for the1920's 1930's based on that dovetailalso based on these poles they're kindof a nice little you know simple Pole sowe look at the hardware of a piece tooand determine what for those kind offactors to to tell determine how oldsomething is I don't have let me see ifI have an empty drawer my big desk hereI don't but basically on a newer pieceof furniture you go see dovetails thatline up really perfectly and you cantell when you look at them that they'regoing to be really really perfectanother construction technique that wesee regularly I Dennis thanks forwatching and Tracy and Rachel againthanks for watching if you liked thishit the like button hit the share buttonlet your friends and family know you'rewatching if you have questions go aheadand post them I'll be happy to answerthem so this is a drawer from the bigcamera behind me that you see in all myvideos sorry this is from a chest ofdrawers we're selling this auction youcan see now I sure want to show you thisfor something else again handcuffeddovetails but they're not as fine as theone on this desk here if you look at theside-by-side you see on the smallerdrawer and the piece on the my left asI'm looking at it those dovetails arereally finely cut and really finelycreated and executed whereas on thepiece on the right they're a little bitmore crude but a little bit more wide soit's a little lesser of quality pieceyou can also see the the planing work isa little bit more crude and so it's moreof a country piece as opposed to a Citycraftsman somebody this this is a niceyou know my son have any said wood inlayshared in their account chests but onethings I want to show you on this and Ihope you can see it furniture tells astory there's a history that you canread in a piece of furniture if you knowto look for so when I look at a piece oftrash like this I was likebottom of a drawer now get back here alittle bit and you can see this we're inhere and also there's different notcheshere where things have been used indifferent times this board on the bottomhas probably been replaced the cabinetis probably 1820s 1840s and my guess isthat this board is added in the 1860s1880s based upon a couple of things it'sa nice wide board it's only a singlepiece and it's probably close to 16inches deep so it's again why theirboards the planing those sofas wasdifferently back different back in timethere was more standardized size issuesstandard sized pieces of wood that weremuch smaller twelve inches is kind of abig board and so you can see this piecedtogether across them actually the solidboard on the bottom also the thingthat's really great to look at is theedges of a board like this you can kindof tell the targa show the edges towardswhere the bottom is the bottom of thedrawer where it joins the sides and thefront you can tell that it's hand planedso the board is flush and then it's handplaned at the edges let me see if Ican't get well there's a good anglersyou can see the difference in thecoloration here this B here you can seethat that line is uneven and that'sbecause they actually took a plane andshaped it down to fit the date thatgroove on the end for a betterconstruction technique so then there youcan see really clearly you look at theprofile how it's angled towards thesides of the drawer hi Lynette thanksfor watching if you have any questionsgo ahead and post them I'll be at theanswers greatly during the video todayand then again you can see the dovetailsthe hand-cut dovetails and again you seethe hand chamfering there to match upthe edges really cleanly the other thingI want to show you about this piece offurniture and how one of the reason youknow that it's an antique is again thehistory of a piece of furniture and soyou can tell here if you're looking atthe backside the this is the inside ofthe drawer and this is the back side ofthe front panel and you can see thatthere's an extra hole here right betweenthe pinsof the hard work the drawer and so whenyou see extra holes that means that thehardware has been replaced you wouldn'tdo that on a newer piece of furniturecuz the hardware is going to be goodhi Andrew hi Bob thanks for watchingBecky thanks for pointing out if youguys have questions let me know but youcan see extra holes and that those extraholes tell you that this piece of thisrug were on the front has been replacedit's very appropriate for the piece andprobably replaced close to a hundredyears ago this is probably like tool1920s or 30s hardware so maybe replacedin the 1930s or 40s so 60 70 80 yearsago it's very appropriate for the pieceit looks fine but you know that it'sbeen replaced so you would love to havethe original hardware there but if youdon't it's a good way to tell agebecause that hardware's been replacedsame thing on upholstered furniture andone of the things that we look for andour buyers look for is the history ofthe upholstery how long is thatupholstery been used generally speakingI think the general rule of thumb isthat on upholstery pieces furniture isgoing to be re covered every 15 to 20years and so you look for the trackswhen you pull the upholstery back everytime these are upholstery there be a newline of nail holes because your stapleholes because when the new vulture isattached you have to you know attach itto the wood and so every every row everyline is another generation of usage andso that's a good way to tell age onupholstered furniture and again like Isaid every 15 to 20 years on average iswhen pieces get reupholstered oh yeahthanks for watching if you have anyquestions let me know I'll be havinganswered the quit during the video hereor show you guys one more polkatechnique so this is this is from thecabinet behind me and so we're talkingabout the age of furniture and thingslook for for quality furniture and oneof the things that we know that I knowthat our buyers are looking for is theconstruction technique we've beentalking about that a lot in this lastten or 15 minutes and this is an antiquepiece of virtual has a lot of reallyinteresting things going on about itthis piece behind was made here in thein the in Kansas actually about 18801890according to the family lore of thefamily I bought it from but you can seethat these sides is just a butt jointthey basically took this board and thisboard and nail them together which isthe most simple most efficient way toattach it when you're making itobviously it's the least strong andtakes the least amount of time to createso it's not a highly sought aftertechnique here what's interesting isthey did that but they also handchamfered the boards on the back on thebottoms of the drawers so that's allhand planed again see the seam boardshere you see there's two differentboards so they took again post big boardso you have two smaller boards here thisis only about like I said about twelveinches like I talked about this is no atsix they took two boards to make the onebottom you can see the scene but theyhand chamfered it to fit to the back togive it a little bit more stabilitythat's a really interesting thing but ifyou look at the counter behind me it'sreally interesting about it and you cankind of tell look above me on the doorsin the center up here go ahead and standup I'll show you these are actually pinsso it's a mortise and tenon and so youhave the two boards connecting and thenthey go to a pin through it to stabilizeit so it wouldn't twist and work and getout a square but look on the edge hereand here and here those are all screwsso they used every kind of constructiontechnique that you could imagine so it'sreally kind of a fun homage to making apiece of furniture and in a lot of waysit's a really a piece of folk artbecause this is truly a piece that youknow a husband made for a wife in thewinter when they were obviously they canfarm because they're covered with crapand you know snow and the grounds frozenLizzie you see a lot of country piecesmade like that again thank you all somuch for watching we had a lot of peoplewatching today a lot of good you knowthanks for all the waves and the hellosand everything else like that we do thispretty much every week the weeklyquestionnaire behind the gavel withJason it's kind of a quick rundownsign off here in just a minute if youhave any last-minute questions go aheadand post them but those are the thingsthat our buyers are always looking forthe quality of the constructiontechnique other things we don't even geta chance to get into is if it's if it'smachine made it can't be made beforeabout 1890 oh this is a great one I havea piece of furniture like this this iscalled a Cove and pin and I just Icolored the the front board of this Idon't have any piece of furniture in thebuilding like with this constructiontechnique right now but I wanted to showit to you because it's another antiquestyle antique construction method thatis that there's a small window of timewhen this was used about 1885 to 1895this is this is all machine done you cansee the perfect so that and of course Icode these in to kind of make them standout but if you saw this picture onlineif you saw a piece of furniture thesepegs are all perfectly round and so theywere cut with the machine and thesecoves are all perfectly half round againcover the machine and so that was agreat early style of the introduction ofthe Industrial Revolution to furniturewhat's this right here this is theprecursor to the machine cut dovetailthe other thing that you want to look atwhen you talk about machine cutting andmachine making furniture is if you see Idon't have anything I can show youreally well the hand pining we talkedabout but the words when they were runthrough the sawmill and we fry it toabout 1890 or so the saw cuts will becircular because there are a big roundsaw blades they'll run through mill andthey would cut in a circular patternbecause that's all assault late spinsabout 1890 or so the saw cuts go ups govertical because it's a more a bandsawtype and so the machine is cuttingstraight up and down it's not running ina circle and they can run the goodproduce more wood board feet that way ina more quickly a more efficienttimeframe and so that's we see that ifyou look closely at furniture you canoftentimes see that you know on a piecelike this they were this has that beenreally finished well so you can't seeany cut marks on thethis this is also interesting it's gottaAlan Roberts antiques from Pound RidgeNew York you want to be able to look atthose things if you know who sold it atsome point in time that could help youout as well we had a c-more desk comethrough the office about five years agoand Seymour the Seymour brothers were atop-notch furniture making family in theBoston area 1760 1780 in that time from1800 and we had a family here in townhad a desk that looked right I mean Isaw my first other pictures I gasped outloud when I saw the piece of furniturein person it really looked really goodand in the research of it all we foundthat they had been bought in the 1930sfrom tux antiques I've beenMassachusetts I believe and we showedpictures to some experts on the eastcoast and they all thought I lookedright they loved the story there was adirect family line to the 1930s thatbuying unit the antique store but cometo find out that antique shop inparticular was known and it's stillknown for taking pieces of old furnitureand making them look like somethingbetter and so that's what we have thereso you really have to be carefulsometimes if we spend real money on youknow significant money for you on apiece make a phone call to somebody youknow who understands the markets andunderstands whether you're looking atreally well the things to look for yeahit's a great great thing to keep in mindwhen you're looking also if a piece offurniture has a company stamp on it youcan look up that company and find outwhen they were in business if it has aretailer's tag on the back sold by youknow Heckman furniture or sold bywhomever the retailer is you can look upthat furniture company know that theywere in business from exploit to D pointone last thing I want to show you justbecause the piece has old constructiontechniques doesn't mean that the pieceis old this is a drawer from a matureblanket chest that I have and has greatTiger maple look to it beautiful dopedhand-cut dovetails he had chamferedbottom drawers everything looks rightthe nails are newer that could be couldthat could be in an added later when Iknow that this piece is a craftsman madepiece probably for about thirty yearsago I bought this in an antique designshop years ago because I justthe piece in the forum it's a greatlittle cabinet but it is truly a newpiece of furniture it still has valueit's a well-built in the antique stylegrandmother was 110 when she passed asfor houses time capsules absolutely Maryit's a that can be overwhelming withfour houses especially that's a lot togo through you want to keep in mind thatjust because your grandmother was ahundred and ten when she passed noteverything in our house is over ahundred and ten years old we hear thator hear that quite regularly well shewas a hundred years old it has to bewell most people buy things until theend if they are capable of doing so butunderstanding the things just because apiece has old construction techniquesdoesn't mean it's an old piece a lot ofpeople over time and still today takeold pieces and make newer pieces out ofthem remember remember this you cannothave a machine made piece and be anantique if there's machine work on it itcannot be more than about 120 years oldall those pieces were added to it laterbut conversely just because a piece hasgood hand quality details to it doesn'tguarantee that it is an antique piece offurniture you want you know things we'lltalk about in future episodes is how tocheck the finish how to check thepatination oxidation when you have anold piece of furniture just it absorbsthe the environment it's in in a waythat a new piece just can't you'll seepeople will stay in a piece of furnitureon the back and the bottom of drawers toreplicate that age of patina but ascratch test will oftentimes give you anidea how was that put on by a brush or arag or was it actually a truepatina from decades or centuries ofbeing around again thank you all so muchfor watching go ahead and sign off nextweek I'll be on vacation so I might signin just once or twice next week on a bigbt behind the gavel adjacent quick fitbut we will not be doing a live videonext Friday because I'll be in Floridawith my family hopefully you all enjoysome vacation time this summer as wellso our next behind the gal with Jasonwill be two weeks from today again ifyou have questions comments concerns goahead and send us an put a message heresend a subscriber Ekman you can alwaysgive us acall it eight one six two eight threethree six three three or drop us anemail info INF o @ kc option company.comletter k letter c auction companyspelled out calmthanks very I'm really looking forwardto it and my boys are difficult if Laurade to see Disney and that go to but downthe house of the rat and then I'm gonnago to the Kennedy Space Center out thereand I keep Carl on mind keepingeverywhere I like us from and born sowe're looking forward to it a little onour way from the office is always a goodthing yeah thank you all so much it'sbeen an exciting week look through thetimeline we had nan Chisholm in theoffice this week talking interviewing usfor an article coming out a localmagazine and a couple of great partialestates coming for our upcoming optionsreally looking for yes and reallyexciting things coming up for the summerand this coming fall already sootherwise have a great weekend have anice day and we'll talk to you soon

Behind the Gavel With Jason talks about how to date your antique furniture.

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